Fifty Shades of Gender podcast graphic with Chris Talbot-Heindl

Episode 96

A conversation with Chris Talbot-Heindl


49 min. Recorded on 1 June 2023. 

Chris’s pronouns are they/them, and they are transgender, non-binary, asexual and panromantic. Find out what that means to Chris in this episode.

We also talk about how labels can mean something different each day, that the gender binary is a colonial construct, gender fuckery and gender abundance, cultural influences on gender, what allyship is and what it’s not, how to take accountability, feeling safe in ourselves, dismantling internalised belief systems, and making space for abundance.

“It’s really just about knowing the thing to realise you fit the thing…So when I heard ‘non-binary’ I was like oh my gosh, that’s the one!”

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About Chris

Chris (they/them) is a queer, trans nonbinary, triracial (white, Japanese, and Indigenous) artist, educomics creator, and nonprofit laborer trying to build spaces ready to celebrate when they turn up authentically.

You can find Chris on their website,, and on Twitter @talbot_heindl.

The Talbot-Heindl Experience occupies the ancestral and traditional lands of the Hinóno’éi-no’ (Arapaho), Tsétséhéståhese (Cheyenne), Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and the Očhéthi Šakówiŋ (Seven Council Fires) peoples. In offering this land acknowledgment, I also acknowledge the state-sanctioned acts of genocide against the original inhabitants of this area and the challenges Indigenous communities face today as a result of colonization. I affirm Indigenous sovereignty, history, knowledge, and experiences. I also pledge to support the Land Back movement and reparations in any way that I can until such time that the land is ceded to its rightful stewards.

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